Thank you Rumen!   Our site has a bundle.config that looks like this:
bundles version="1.0">
  <styleBundle path="~/Content/css">
    <include path="~/Content/bootstrap.css" />
    <include path="~/Content/Site.css" />
  </styleBundle>
</bundles>

Do we need to add the css files to this or just change the theme to be Bootstrap in the app.settings file and move the files to the correct folder

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Hi Rumen,

As it's not yet available on Visual Style Builder, could you also email me the Bootstrap skin please?

Thanks
Syed

Hi Rumen,
If you could email me it that would be great. I can play with it to see what I can modify.
Is their a projection yet for the release date?

Thanks,
Doug

So far this bootstrap theme does help. I need to change the colors to the same colors I changed in mt bootstrap theme. I was going to try the Telerik Visual Style Builder but the bootstrap theme is not there. Is there any way to get a zip file of the bootstrap theme that I could import into the Visual Style Builder.

Also the the delete button for the appointments with the scheduler is hidden, same color? The drag to rezise line is pretty small as well on the appointment.

@Rumen
  http://demos.telerik.com/aspnet-ajax-beta/scheduler/examples/day-week-multi-day-views/defaultcs.aspx
Click an item, the rsModal popup is unstyled (Bootstrap skin clearly)...also the gradient on the items needs to go :)

It's great to support one framework (Bootstrap) which is by far the most popular. What about Zurb Foundation (second most used) and others? 

@Rumen, is there a place I can go to download this beta?

@Rumen
  Sorry one other thing, it'd be a nice feature to allow us to disable the embedded background image skin and instead use fontawesome...not that the radcontrols need to include fontawesome most of us have it on our pages anyway, the icon elements would just need to be decorated with the right class names.

@Rumen
  I'm very happy to see this, defiantly will be moving all my metro skinned stuff over to it.  However I see it's still saddled with the legacy hardcoded font family.  I mean if you NEED to do that, okay fine, but can you please make it easier for us to override?

So example is that all the RadControls have a wrapper class like ".RadListBox_Bootstrap" which defines the font-family.  This also means I would need to create a huge rule covering every single RadControl just to override that family.  What would be much more slick is if the all the controls were instead just decorated with "SkinBootstrap" or "SkinSilk" and THAT defined the family.  Then in one simple swoop I could just change the font for everything.

Overall, it looks great and is definatly a step in the right direction!

Please please please make the Material/Bootstrap skins you've made for KendoUI/MVC for ASP.NET AJAX.

The skins available for KendoUI/MVC are so much more clean and modern than what we have for ASP.NET AJAX, where most of the skins look like they were made in the 80's.

+1 
I commented back in September, our needs are still valid. We would like to be able to use Bootstrap styles with minimal effort. A "skin" or a "render mode" implementation where we could include any bootstrap css file from the master web form probably would be simplest.

Looking forward to the changes, love bootstrap and Telerik controls. Hoping for a painless existence together.

Bump from here - really want to have painless use of bootstrap for client-side styling and responsive design while reataining the rich, high quality components server-side which are Telerik's strength...

Mark

It's very positive that Telerik is putting on a push for Bootstrap integration. Your controls are top-notch, but obviously it's hard to keep up with anything in the Web world and they have fallen behind in some ways. The incompatibilities have been extremely frustrating for those of us trying to do layouts.

I've attached two files that show the problems. Both reference Bootstrap but default2.aspx substitutes Telerik ASP.NET AJAX controls. Ideally, they would render alike, with the bonus of the Telerik functionality in the second.

If you have any advice on current techniques that would improve the rendering, that would be welcome too!

Ken

We would like to pursue both Telerik and Bootstrap - we like the stock layout and grid system in Bootstrap, but we absolutely love the capabilities of the Telerik controls and would be stuck without them. By adding both server side wrappers for Bootstrap and Telerik I think you’ve taken a very wise and good step forward for support. If Telerik provided more of a 'UI' framework as a whole rather than singular controls we would definitely look at switching to that for better support.

The main Ajax controls that we would be planning on using in this setup would be the RadGrid, RadToolbar, and RadComboBox, in that order of importance. Any other controls would be a bonus but those 3 would give the best start on adopting it.

Thanks

@Rumen
  Just like jeremy we use bootstrap admin themes, but in the context of Sitefinity.  But there's just no radcontrol skin which maps at all, which pushes us over to kendo.  Those controls appear more native 90% due to the font family.  A RadGrid looks odd or sloppy hardcoded to arial...like kendo though is just a bootstrap theme, they don't use markup.  You could one-up them by injecting bootstrap classes where appropriate...like bg-info or text-muted...styles you don't need to worry about brcause we have them already defined.  But yeah like john says you might need to do foundation or zurb later...

I hate having to use an app to download a custom skin, because it means we're needing to keep using it and rememering settings every update...3-6 times a year in sitefinitys case.

Rumen, thanks for your reply.  Here is my critical issue and one that is basically pushing me towards ComponentOne.  We use your controls in our custom CMS.  We purchase 'bootstrap' templates from sites like https://wrapbootstrap.com/.  While not all of these templates are Bootstrap compliant, the ones that are NEED to be 'pluggable' into the CMS.  This enables us to provide a huge library of custom templates to our customer while focusing on the CMS.  We cannot support this scenario in the current 'state' of your controls.  I hope that helps, well my 2 cents at least.

Jeremy Schaab
CSharp, ApartmentCloud, LLC

Although I appreciate the bootstrap integration there are two major frameworks. What about us developers that utilize Zurb's Foundation? It is close to the same functionality as bootstrap but different as well. Can we get support for that as well?

It's on the roadmap now http://www.telerik.com/support/whats-new/aspnet-ajax/roadmap

Concerns:
- Bootstarp "inspired"
- They'll hardcode in a font family like the other skins

how many likes do telerik need to get to implement this?

+1 for this also

+1 for this - Having a render mode to switch to 'bootstrap' render mode would probably be the easiest, and then not register the AXD's with the script manager for the CSS for the grid system, when RenderMode=Bootstrap assume the user has already referenced bootstrap.

It would be nice to be able to simply include a bootstrap css file in the master file, then use the CssClass properties of controls and then perhaps use RenderMode to some specific value.

I am trying to work this out on RadButtons, by manually copying from a Bootstrap skin, but I have to set "!important" flag on styles in the css file, to try to overwrite the Telerik skin.

Currently with the Telerik Silk skin, perhaps it would be a good idea to set the Telerik skin on the individual controls when styling them.

Bootstrap the RadGrid!!! Everything else are just ... supplementary.

All of our new .Net web projects will employ Bootstrap, now that it is part of Visual Studio templates especially.  Please, I love using your controls, integrate with Bootstrap.

I've gone Kendo (who do have a bootstrap theme) in the short term until the ajax guys can get us bootstrap...who knows maybe the dumping of IE7 was the first step to moving in that direction...but MAN is this taking forever.  

I'm sure we'd all rather have a simple skin instead of responsive "frameworks"...suppose the problem maybe lies in that they have to skin every widget with every new skin.  I appreciate teleriks wanting to solve responsive, but yer just not gonna compete with bootstrap or foundation...accept and adopt

I've been using Telerik for years with great success. But... (there's always one!)... We've just switched to using Bootstrap (replacing our custom CSS) and I was surprised that Telerik haven't been switched on enough with the rise Bootstrap to make it compatible already. Getting quite frustrated by the lack of support and that is leading me to question if I can really still use the Telerik controls that I've been using for years.

Telerik.....? Any idea when we are likely to see Bootstrap compatibility please?

Telerik really needs to upgrade their theming options and respect the designers by giving them liberty to edit or bind it to other frameworks. Just by giving theme editor will not work. Firstly, the size of generated axds are quite big and secondly, they get loaded at the last moments of page load which overrides all custom code. Really frustrating

My biggest issue with the native themes is that they are very intrusive...fonts are hardcoded, not much is inherited from your theme.  Makes it a TON of work to override existing styling..."Custom Skins" are annoying to make because upgrades inevitably cause graphical glitches\maintenance nightmare...

It would be nice if the native styles (not just a bootstrap theme) would be refactored so we can drop them into a project and only have to worry really about colors and icons...like they appear native to the site when dropped in (like Kendo)

Good point Grahm and I guess my biggest issue or the result that I would like to see is something in the product that makes it easy to deal with the controls working in a 'responsive' layout (even if Telerik comes up with their own) so that I don't have to spend hours digging into, lets say the grid header css or the even worse the 'image upload' controls css to make the control work in a simple responsive layout.  

Making commercial products that work with free stuff is always dangerous, but I think the concept of responsive is here to stay, so either roll their own into the product or make it easy to work with Bootstrap, Zurb, etc.

My thoughts of course!

We also have a requirement to align Telerik with bootstrap and are contemplating discarding Telerik if it cannot do this.

My observation of Bootstrap is that it is a collection of css styles for visual appearance and for responsive layout.

Telerik implements its own css class hierarchy which is completely different and incompatible to bootstrap and would probably require a huge amount of work to Telerik to make it use bootstrap.

Is there any mileage in adding further Telerik themes which 'look like' bootstrap and/or stylings in Telerik's own css which achieve the same layout effects as bootstrap ?

From a commercial perspective, I see a risk of making one's product heavily dependent on a 'freeby' product.

To answer Jeffrey's question above, for me it's not as much about the theme, although that is important, it's more about the responsive layout.  That is what the core of bootstrap is really all about.  What I would like to see is the menu and nav bar be responsive like in bootstrap. As the browser window narrows, at some point the menus become the square button on the top, and the items from both the menu and nav bar can be accessed through that button.  That would be a huge win for us.

I do not buy telerik controls at the moment just because I cannot style them quick and easy with bootstrap classes

Thanks

With the release of VS2013 and its native support for bootstrap, we are looking at restyling our main intranet application to use bootstrap instead of the custom CSS styling its using right now.  We really want a responsive design mechanism that allows us to easily refresh the look & feel of the App on a more regular basis. The app makes heavy use of the ASP.NET controls, especially the Radgrid control. I don't know if we would remove the controls to gain bootstrap, modify the bootstrap CSS to better support Telerik or delay our redesign until Telerik better support bootstrap, but we are going to have to do something within the 3-6 months.

Thanks.

Hi Jeffrey, 

You can see a lot of issues reported by me to the support service around bootstrap and Telerik controls (see thread id = 670328, 669275, 693013, 701051, 702720). 

The main problem I found is the same as told by Jeremy: developers need to hardcode a lot of CSS to align Telerik controls to bootstrap style.

For example, if we use the autocompletebox control, we need to create new CSS clases to show correctly all its subelements. Almost the same happens with the Datepicker: the button to display the calendar is not displayed by default. We need to create a class to show it. 

In addition, those controls (and all its elements) need to be correctly aligned to Bootstrap scaffolding. As far as complex controls implement buttons, inputs and other html controls with their own class and their own ids, they are not correcty rendered. 

Like Jeremy, I can also provide some examples if you want. 

Regards, 

Jeffrey, I am not sure the best way to provide you the details.  But we are using RadControls with our Admin UI, but that UI also runs on Bootstrap and is further themed by a template.  Essentially, there are challenges with the Grids, Editors (html, image) and the more complex controls.  We had to use a non-styled approach, then add back or explicitly ignore ones that weren't covered in Bootstrap but needed for the controls.

Ultimately, some kind of 'over-ride' on CSS maps may be a good start, but the biggest challenge and concern you may have is with the different versions of these frameworks.  There are some things like using <i> icon notation that would require changes too.

What is the best way for me to provide the details or code examples on how we do it?

Any solution that would allow RADControls to match the Bootstrap 3 CSS.

we have same issue. I would like to see RadControls can support Bootstrap. It will be help us a lot.

Thanks,

We concur, right now we use bootstrap with themes we buy on wrapbootstrap.com and we have to do a lot of meddling around to get the RadControls to look/work right.

My suggesstion is a global CSS setting that would not just come with a bootstrap theme, but allow us to set the CSS folder for the controls to use, this would enable us to use multiple '3rd Party' themes with RADControls.

Right now we are weiging using the controls less because of the lack of HTML5 (it is getting better!) and missing support for Bootstrap.

In the world of competing with the LAMP stack, things like this would be great.